Ric, Not to be a pain, but... Unicontroller has the error. Everything starts up fine with Server_Start.bat. Not running AVG like Couch Potatoe. I have Trend Micro 2009 - I just turned all its features off to double check... still a problem. And as I mentioned earlier netstat -aon doesn't show anything on port 80. Also mentioned earlier I changed the port settings in httpd.conf to 81 and the same error came up. There must be something going on here. Oh and THANKS for Uniform Server, I use it all the time for developing and it's great! Jay