i am glad to see my english could be understand ,hoho ye ,the logo ,for my poor english, i couldnot explain it better,i try my best ,i think a logo should tell the looker the meaning of it so uniformserver was a clean, green software ,so the logo also should be suggest this meaning or more ,the used logo as i seem dont show these things. that's just what i thinked PS. i am waiting for the new vision of uniformsever wihch include the PHP4&GD